Welcome to Danny Gokey News & Discussion- 1/23 – 1/29/17

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132 thoughts on “Welcome to Danny Gokey News & Discussion- 1/23 – 1/29/17

  1. I know some parts of the world celebrate new year this day beside china.I dont know how you guys call it.So happy new year is the way to put it.Thanks Jan.

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  2. Jan,
    When do you think the next single will be released?

    My choice for next single is Chasing. It has been very popular on youtube and itunes.
    Critics like it. Danny’s fans (based on tweets and youtube comments) like it. Plus Jordan’s fans like it–and she has lots of fans.
    If it is the next single, I think it would help create more attention to have the video go to itunes–not just posted to youtube.

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  3. Lurker, I think Danny’s team want Rise to get its radio #1….

    Will it rebound and overtake Zack? Hard to say ..

    I don’t expect a new single for a quite a few weeks. I do think that the Jordin video will be important to his upcoming shows. I like the idea of it being the next single. It could cross over to to HAC or AC if it does amazing at CAC, IMO.

    New billboard methodology

    http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7669133/billboard-genre-album-charts-consumption-streams-track-sales?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily&utm_term=daily_digest

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  4. Lurker, I would never be the person to respond on fashion, but I will tell you that when I was in London a year ago, I felt so out of style if I wasn’t wearing “skinny” style jeans. NO one was wearing looser styles.

    I think the rips do make them softer and more flexible than regular skinny jeans (which can strangle the back side of your knee)

    Here is what is listed for ripped skinny jeans about a month ago online:

    “reviewers rave over these Frame jeans. One person says it’s the best $200 they’ve ever spent! They’re distressed from waist to knee for a London-inspired grunge look, and are perfect for days when you want to stand out.” ripped jeans
    He was meeting with his Label heads. No Midwest boy look for Danny on this tour 😉

    I really liked this wool, long jacket. And the cars.

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  5. It is a very slimming look. Does anyone else think Danny has lost weight? I also think he may have changed his workouts so he doesn’t get the big biceps like he did for his country councerts. More balanced? Huge biceps wouldn’t fit some of his current looks. Not that I mind them 😉

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  6. I know the jeans are fashionable. This part: ” It can’t be because of the way they look” probably should have had a 😉 after it. Danny probably does like the way they look.

    I think they are ugly though. 😀

    There are many things fashionable that I don’t like. 😉

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  7. I like Danny’s jacket, but agree with Lurker about the jeans. What would have been wrong about Danny wearing the suit from his Album photo? 🙂 A nice clean look is what I like. I don’t believe in fashion. You wear what you like and feel comfortable in. Don’t let the clothes wear you. On that note… Danny looked (somewhat) comfortable. Really liked the jacket. 🙂

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  8. Goodness, I hope I wasn’t too harsh. I love the suit on Danny’s CD cover, and on Idol when he performed, You Are So Beautiful. That’s just my taste. Actually, I think Danny is very handsome, but it’s who he is on the inside that I’m a fan of. Of course, his voice and music. 🙂

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  9. Cindy3, how can you possibly be “too harsh” by simply sharing your honestly-held opinion? And hello? We are talking about Danny’s clothes, not about him as a person. Lurker even went so far as to describe Danny’s jeans as “ugly.” I agree with Lurker, BTW. I always figured clothing manufacturers like to push ripped jeans as fashionable because they don’t last as long. (Ripped jeans have been cyclically
    popular, since way before skinny jeans were a thing.)

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  10. Cindy, you harsh? Hardly!

    We all have “looks” we like better. Danny is competing in a young person’s game (music). At almost 37, and with a younger wife, I am sure they are conscience of what his “look” should be. Fashion doesn’t offend me UNLESS it puts women out there in next to nothing (bikinis/see through/low cut dresses) to be sex objects while a man is fully covered up. That is what I object to…

    I’m kind of old school when it comes to business attire, too. I see women with plunging necklines (like they are going to a dance club) at work…. and I remember how hard we worked to be taken serious. Oh, the button up blouses and men’s cut suits of my early career 😉

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  11. Mr. Bing, we usually just refer to it as the “Chinese New Year” here. I have a friend who is interested in the Chinese Zodiac. She always gets my year wrong, because the calendar year does not completely overlap with the Chinese New Year (and vice versa).

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  12. “next to nothing”

    Nothing (not just next to nothing) also seems quite popular.

    Yahoo, Aol, etc. seem to celebrate when a celebrity posts another nude selfie, bragging on the courage and beauty portrayed. (I need a smiley for disgust.)

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  13. I totally agree, Jan, That’s why I just shake my head when I see a Fifth Harmony or (now) Little Mix video. The women’s clothing is scanty and trashy-looking, and their “dancing” is like twerking, if twerking means dancing in a way that emulates the sex act (just in case audience members can’t figure out how it’s done without a graphic demonstration).

    Jan, I remember having difficulty finding plain pumps when I started out my career, because women’s shoes at that point were all strappy, sexy sandals that you’d wear if you went out dancing. I really liked the business suits, though, but I remember a time when the skirts were so short, they didn’t even look good on the mannequins. (And women who were successful back then, especially if they were attractive, were often accused of sleeping with their bosses.) I also remember the floppy silk bow ties that we’d tie at the neck of our blouses, as the female equivalent of a man’s tie.

    I really liked my business suits, but I will never be a size 2 again. I wish it were easier to find them here. (I think they are more common in the Midwest and maybe East Coast. The last suit I bought was on a trip to Minnesota, but that was a while ago.)

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  14. Oh, Ellen! I had those silk (womens) neckties, too… And a really nice navy (skirted) suit, LOL….

    I have a picture from my graduating from a management course in the 90’s….

    6 women. 23 men. And that is when they pushed to include women in management…

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  15. Title of articles:

    “Broad worries about potential health care loss”

    What I think it means: Some woman worrying about health care

    What it means: Wide-spread worries…

    I read “Holiday Meals You Will Ignore”

    I reread: It’s “Holiday Meals You Will Adore”

    I used to be able to read well. 😉 Now I misread often.

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  16. I finally had time to listen to Joshua Ledet and “Love Can Do” vs.the lyric notes from DG’s version of “What Love Can Do.” I know Jan mentioned how the lyrics were re-arranged, I guess also Danny’s has an extra verse which among other things makes it a little more CCM-oriented with explicit reference to “heaven’s love.”

    Still, it seems very generous of Bernie Herms and the other co-writer that Danny gets first listing for the credits in the revised version.

    Comparing the two, I think I like Josh’s version slightly better on the vocals 😳 Part of that is the production on Josh’s is simpler.

    But it’s a close call. Somehow I never bought Josh’s version before, so more 😳 but fixed that so equal opportunity balance restored among these two soulful-soulful AI top 3 finalists 🙂

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  17. A couple of comments on the album overall

    – it seems more cohesive than HIFOM the album.

    – although it’s not the style of music I typically listen to, I like the mix of songs better in this one than the very throwback R&B tracks on HIFOM (e.g., Take It To The Limit); also the lyrics in general are better developed (see Better than Gold).

    – I miss however that there is not a strong flow-y ballad like TYHTBA on the RISE album. Not sure why they couldn’t find or write one to mix in.

    – Danny sounds good in most of the tracks. There are some moments in certain of the songs like Masterpiece where his vocal sound has some unpleasant edges or strained moments for me.

    – The techno production is not my style, and I do think the degree of it in this makes it hard to perform these songs live at least based on the YT clips we’ve seen. WIll be interested what anyone sees who is able to attend one of the tour shows.

    – It’s interesting how Danny himself does the background vocals for most of the album tracks. It’s not uncommon these days, but still I always wonder why that choice is made.
    —- the only singer who can credibly back Danny is Danny himself? Not really true, Jamelle was amazing and various others have worked with Danny well on that in studio and live settings.
    —- Danny wants to do it, and gets extra album credit / income stream from being one of the supporting musicians as well as the solo artist vocals?
    —- Danny wants or can be talked into doing it, and doesn’t get paid at all for his bgv extra work so it saves money in album production costs?
    —- Having Danny’s own vocals backing himself up creates the impression of a fuller DG sound vs. having a different singer doing the bgvs?
    —- other?

    – Danny being his own bgv on the recorded track is another of the things that makes it either harder or easier depending on how you look at it to cover these songs live and make it seem like a full live performance vs. singing in front of a track.

    – The number of motivational uptempo songs and Danny’s talking about songs people will want to work out to made me wonder if Danny is consciously aiming for a big persistent or crossover hit like Mandisa’s Overcomer (is that the one – 16M YT views on her official video, or is it a different one of her songs).

    – Among the uptempo motivational songs I like “Stronger” best – can’t remember if that was the song that I originally disliked for its opening production or not. I like the chorus lyrics about a “thunder” rolling in our hearts.

    – I like the two duets with the very different female singers. I don’t know the CCM radio market well enough to be able to judge whether a song like Chasin is too slow, soft, contemplative to work for radio or could fit right in. I could see some marketing appeal with Jordin’s name recognition and co-promo ability. i also wondered if Kiki Sheard on the other song could allow that song to be released into the gospel market.

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  18. I love Danny’s What love Can Do. I haven’t listened to the other one.

    Perhaps Danny sings the background vocals because he likes to show what he can do with his voice? If he gets more money for it, that is good. If the label gets more money (or saves money), that is also good. It is something to be desired that the label makes money from Danny’s work.

    I read in one review that a song had female backup singers. I wonder if that is correct. It might be Danny.

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  19. I like Joshua’s voice. But on Idol he was unconstrained… it seemed to me. I liked his version of WLCD.

    But his phrasing for MDYK us off for me and then he gets shrill/sharp… not loving it.

    Danny’s is emotional and well sung. My favorite version.

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  20. I enjoyed reading your RISEcomments, admin2.

    I was a bit surprused by the techno tendencies, but I love the danceable tunes. Never the Same is one og my favorites and it gets me moving around and it is a bit different vocal performance for Danny.

    I do like hearing Dannny doing his own BV. He has a pretty impressive range…

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  21. According to the album notes (with essential help from a magnifying glass), the bgv’s are by

      Stronger Than We Think – original and remix, bgvs by Danny
      Rise – Danny and Bernie (not sure I knew that Bernie was a singer)
      Masterpiece – Danny
      Comeback – Danny
      Slow Down – Felicia Barton. Wasn’t she an AI semi-finalist or something like that?
      What Love Can Do – ~10-person Choir
      Chasing – none
      If You Ain’t In It – Danny, Ben Glover, Willy “The Fish” Johnson (Ben is also one of the track producers)
      Never Be The Same – Danny
      Symptoms – Jimmy Burney and Josh Zegan (Josh is also one of the track producers)
      Better Than I Found It – six vocalists listed, three sopranos, an alto and two tenors. Not sure if the several backing singers shown in the acoustic video would be the actual ones on the track. Perhaps since Maestro and dg band were also in the acoustic version?

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  22. I can’t easily come up with any bio info for “Willy The Fish” 😥

    Ben Glover however has various credits including as cowriter on Mandisa’s Overcomer, which won a Grammy for them. Hmm.

    Josh Zegan is based in California with several roles including as a writer with Word Music Publishing.

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  23. Thank you, ADMIN2. I haven’t commented on Danny’s new CD. You did a nice job. Very informative. I won’t be able to do as good as job..

    I’ve enjoyed all of Danny’s albums. With his new album I noticed that it just “flows along.” There isn’t “ups and downs.” What I mean by that is.. that with his past albums there were songs that made me cry. Then, made me happy. With this album I can listen, and just relax and enjoy. The musical arrangements were great. There were messages of hope and love. I’m not sure I have a favorite song like I’ve had with his past albums. I’ll have to listen a while longer..

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  24. “With his new album I noticed that it just “flows along.” There isn’t “ups and downs.” What I mean by that is.. that with his past albums there were songs that made me cry. Then, made me happy. With this album I can listen, and just relax and enjoy.”

    I like Admin2’s comments. I like yours also, Cindy3. Both opinions are interesting and allow me a view I otherwise would not have noticed.

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  25. Forgot to look up Felicia Barton. Yes, from Danny’s AI season

    wiki:

    Felicia Barton (born March 6, 1982) is an American singer and songwriter, best known for her appearance on the eighth season of American Idol in 2009. Since 2013, she has joined Warner-Chappell Music and Pulse Recording as a songwriter, and has co-written songs for Lea Michele and Demi Lovato.

    Barton auditioned for the eighth season of American Idol in Louisville, Kentucky. In the final round of Hollywood, Barton was eliminated by the judges. The day after the episode containing her elimination, it was announced that semi-finalist Joanna Pacitti had been disqualified, and that Barton would replace her in the Top 36. Barton performed in the third semi-finalist group, and received positive response for her performance from both the judges and commentators on the Internet. The next night, it was announced that she did not advance to the finals.

    In early 2013, Barton signed a “joint-venture publishing deal with Warner-Chappell & Pulse”.[1] She has co-written songs for Demi Lovato, Lea Michele, and American Idol finalist Jena Irene. Barton has worked as a background singer on Dancing with the Stars. In July 2015, it was announced that she would perform at the Miss USA 2015 pageant.

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  26. Among the uptempo motivational songs I like “Stronger” best – can’t remember if that was the song that I originally disliked for its opening production or not. I like the chorus lyrics about a “thunder” rolling in our hearts.

    Admin2, I think you were jolted by “If You Ain’t In It”. We didn’t hear Stronger until it was released with the album. We had heard Symptoms, BTIFI, Rise, IYAII.

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  27. Update….

    I’ve been doing some work around the house today, and I realized that I could listen to Danny’s CD on our TV with the use of You Tube. Wow, it’s like a concert in my own front room. 🙂 I do like the old video of Rise. Rise is still my favorite, but I also like Comeback and Masterpiece. I’m really enjoying all of the CD, so my favorite song may change. 😉 It will be a nice CD to listen to on road trips. For my husband and I, when we leave the mountain it’s always a road trip. 🙂

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  28. I am still digesting Danny’s CD, as well as the various comments here, particularly Admin2’s extensive comments.

    I will say upfront that I much prefer Joshua Ledet’s version of “Love Can Do.” Danny’s version is too busy, production-wise, and it takes away some of the oomph of the song. I don’t dislike it; I just prefer Joshua’s version.

    On the other hand, Danny owns “Mary, Did You Know,” (just like he owns the Sony version of “O Holy Night”). I agree with Jan that Joshua’s version of MDYK doesn’t work. He does sound shrill at times and the phrasing doesn’t make an impact. I still think Joshua is very talented, though.

    Since I brought up OHN, can I just say again how strongly I dislike Danny’s version of “O Holy Night” on his Christmas CD? I mean I borderline hate it. And it makes me kinda dislike the whole CD. Definitely my least favorite Danny CD, and that may include that weird EP. Part of it, I’m sure, is disappointed expectations. I know what Danny can do with OHN. I’m sure they wanted to something different than the Sony version, but what is on the CD sounds soulless to me. The musical phrasing, and most especially the production on the song, is way off base (IMHO only, of course). I feel nothing when I hear that song. (In contrast, MDYK transports me to another realm.)

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  29. I am still sick and do not appear to be getting better. I’m afraid this is going to turn into pneumonia, if it hasn’t already. (There are some indications that it has.) ☹️ 🤧 😷 🤒

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  30. I do think that “Rise” is Danny’s most cohesive album to date. I also think that part of the reason Danny went in a more uptempo direction is that he realized he needed those uptempo songs for balance when he’s out there touring, especially when doing longer sets or solo events. He needs the energy for concerts. No matter how beautiful, ballads alone don’t sustain concerts. Danny learned a thing or two from his country music outing . . .

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  31. Ellen, please go see your doctor by Monday if you are feeling worse. Best wishes, I hope some rest gets you into recovery.

    I liked Josh’s What Love Can Do. I generally skip it and Slowdown when I put RISE on repeat. I love the uptempo songs, but I give Danny props for Masterpiece and Chasing, too. Generally I like big voice, gospelly songs, so I was surprised on Danny’s version of What Love Can Do. Maybe if he had done if a cappella — but with a backing choir? I might have loved it.

    I’ve been thinking about putting together a post on reviewing RISE. Asking people to contribute their thoughts on a song? Plus adding in the reviews we have from the industry (although we haven’t seen any big time reviews, yet.)

    Would you all be willing to take one song and provide your thoughts?

    DGNews reviews RISE?

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  32. Jan, I have an appointment with the physician assistant on Monday. I’ve been to the doc before and my lungs were fine then.

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  33. Not sure taking one song would work, though, Jan. Think peeps would need to give feedback on the CD as a whole. Not necessarily song-by-song. But if people take only one song, wouldn’t they gravitate to whatever is their favorite song? Don’t think you’d get a good, balanced review that way.

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  34. I hope you feel better, Ellen. All the best. 🌼

    I’m not very literate when it comes to describing music. I choose the songs I like by the way I feel when I listen to them. I can give it a try, Jan.

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  35. Thinking about it, I guess a plus of the lack of flow-y strong ballads in RISE is that Danny can keep TYHTBA in his concert set indefinitely? 🙂

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  36. “Danny can keep TYHTBA in his concert set indefinitely? 🙂”

    Some stars with big hits sing a song for years. The fans want to hear the songs they love. I think I read an article about Billy Joel talking about a song–don’t remember the comment, just something about the number of years singing it (might have been “The Piano Man,” maybe a song he didn’t like).

    I would not like doing a review. I don’t know anything about music except I like something or I don’t. I didn’t even notice that there was a choir in “That’s What Love Can Do.”

    One night I was restless and had trouble going to sleep. Then that song started running through my head. The next day I realized it had helped me fall asleep. I decided then that I liked it.

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  37. One night I was restless and had trouble going to sleep. Then that song started running through my head. The next day I realized it had helped me fall asleep. I decided then that I liked it.

    I’m not sure about reviews, but perhaps Jan and Danny can use your testimonial 😀

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  38. lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move Aud
    1 1 ZACH WILLIAMS Chain Breaker 2024 2040 -16 10.86
    3 2 CHRIS TOMLIN Jesus 1714 1803 -89 7.706
    2 3 CASTING CROWNS One Step Away 1703 1819 -116 7.562
    4 4 BIG DADDY WEAVE The Lion And The Lamb 1536 1668 -132 7.876
    8 5 DANNY GOKEY Rise 1530 1408 122 8.767
    5 6 HILLARY SCOTT/THE SCOTT FAMILY Thy Will 1505 1613 -108 7.032
    6 7 NATALIE GRANT King Of The World 1501 1475 26 8.922
    – See more at: http://www.allaccess.com/mediabase/q/report/sevenDay/format/X2/panel/X/detail/C/reportType/R#sthash.vG59WTrn.dpuf

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  39. Danny was interviewed by the writer on Tuesday or Wednesdat of last week, Admin2.

    My guess is that they are working on a bigger project than NEXT. NEXT is in the past in “Danny-think” (he recorded his segments a month ago) 😉

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  40. Cindy3, I saw that comment, too.

    Frankly, I am so biased on Danny music, I really don’t know if others would like the album that don’t listen to Christian music….. so I guess I couldn’t say either 😉

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